Ghost Whisperer Season 3 Finale : Is Jim Dead?
Sorry for the delay. Ghost Whisperer is just an okay show, so I don’t really watch it until there’s nothing good on T.V. Since all my favorite shows already ended, I decided to watch season 3.
I must admit that the whole Tom Gordon not being Melinda’s dad bit, really surprised me. I didn’t see that coming, at least not until Melinda’s mom said she lived with Paul Eastman for a while. It was good. It answered some of the mysteries surrounding Melinda, but also opened more questions for the next season.
I’m wondering who Gabriel is now? Is he still Melinda’s brother? There was this one scene where Tom referred to Melinda as “your sister” when he was talking to Gabriel. It’s possible that Gabriel never knew that Tom wasn’t Melinda’s real dad. Also, that underground thing is not yet resolved too. The whole mystery of Grandview.
I have a theory about the cliffhanger. During the end, Payne saw only five shadows instead of six. I keep rewinding it, and there was a gap between Delia and Ned where Jim was supposed to be standing. I wish I could post some screen shots. I’ll try to acquire some and update this post later. But anyway, is Jim dead? If so, it would be awesome but at the same time sad. It will give the show some new drama and twists. It would also mean that Melinda’s mom would get more screen time since Melinda will need a family. I’m sad for Melinda though. They’re a really happy couple. Jim seems to be the only person who understands and supports her.
Anyway, let’s just wait and see what will happen next season. I will definitely watch it now. I’m intrigued.
UPDATE
Here, you can see Jim interacting with Delia and Ned. I never really seen Payne touching anybody except Melinda. If Payne is the ghost, even Melinda isn’t supposed to touch him right? It’s confusing because Jim also touched Ned. Maybe nobody is dead after all? Maybe it’s just an omen or something.
Here are the shadows. As you can see Jim doesn’t have any.
Confusing huh? I’m now saying it’s just an omen. Nobody is dead. What you think?
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Michaela Says:
No, I don’t think it is Jim. I think it is Payne. I know Ghost Whisperer normally doesn’t do the obvious thing, but if someone else was dead, Payne wouldn’t have been able to see them, and also Beth sees ghosts so would she not have commented? Plus you see Jim and Ned, and Jim and Delia interacting so I don’t think it could be him. Plus I think it would change the dynamic of the show way too much if they killed Jim
Posted on June 8th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Daft Sally Says:
I think it is a very good possibility that Jim could die. Sometimes, actors just choose to leave shows. They have always left an ‘out’ for Jim’s death: the tension between Melinda and Payne. And let’s not forget how much Andrea meant to the show, and how much it changed when she left. Besides, why would we watch the same season over and over? Things have to change or we are gonna get bored with a capital ‘B’.
Everyone in that scene was interacting, including Payne. I don’t think anyone is dead yet, I think it is a premonition, not necessarily of Jim’s death… but they sure hinted at it. Maybe Payne is going to die. Maybe Jim. Maybe no one. Maybe the shadows under the town are messing with Melinda again. Let’s just not get so comfortable with the idea that no one in the show can die because they sprung that on us in season one.
Posted on June 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Jessica Rae Says:
Ooohh…this is intriguing! I love the graphic you made. LoL. Maybe his shadow is hidden by Ned’s, kinda? Or maybe satan ate his soul!!!!
Posted on June 11th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Ivy the Turkey Whisperer Says:
Lol thanks. It’s just something to illustrate what I was talking about.
haha maybe Satan did ate his soul or shadow. He was like….hmm Jim’s shadow looks yummy *chomp chomp*.
Posted on June 12th, 2008 at 6:56 am
ReagunUsA Says:
Not Payne
* contiguos shadws mean ghost can not be in middle
* Melinda n Mom would know cause both would have seen him. M knows ghosts from not automatically.
* holding M’s hand / interacting physically
Yes Jim
* would have uncharistically ignored M hldg Payne’s hand
* he is at end of line of contiguous shdws
* he is acting strange bopping around Ned
* Ned and mom interaction could have been w/eachother
Not Jim
* may have interacted w/ Ned
Yes Payne
* on new show/series
* would have to have seen ghost to know how many people+ there were
* M looked at him immediately upon realization, not elsewhere to see who the ghost might be
Posted on June 13th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Sasha Says:
I’m kind of tempted to want to watch all the re-runs to look for clues
Posted on June 13th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ivy Says:
^ haha I don’t think it’s worth it. I don’t think there are clues either. But if you do go through with it and you’ll find one, tell me!
Posted on June 14th, 2008 at 10:38 am
mikec Says:
anybody knows the title of the song they’re playing at end . really like it and want to download it at itunes.
Posted on June 16th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Ivy Says:
Life Is Beautiful by Vega 4
Posted on June 17th, 2008 at 5:20 am
ReagunUSA Says:
Didn’t Jim have something on his back a while ago that suggested he was the likely death of a loved one person? Also, that final scene screams Jim in that he never interacts with anyone when someone else is not simultaneously and seperately interacting with the same person; he is the only one who never casts a shadow; Melinda’s mom says “go with your friends”; and Melinda ignores Jim during the whole walk while choosing to walk with Payne and hold his hand. Also no way Melinda is interacting with Payne without knowing he is a ghost, that would be a mega copout by the producers. Just one thing though, how does Payne know Jim is there and how does M also know, when he mentions it? If M knew one of the main characters was dead but acted all happy like in that scene, it would be a mega copout. But if she did not know, it would be the first time she saw a ghost without knowing (also a mega copout). I like the theory that it is a bad ghost warning rather than a death. But why would P and M be soooo concerned then? Must have something to do with Payne’s rumored upcoming sabattical. That guy is just too good on that show to pass into the light and the rumored Jamie Kennedy expirement is risky. That guy has had no staying power on anything and is a jump the shark risk.
Posted on June 18th, 2008 at 4:51 am
Ivy Says:
I’m still saying it’s just an omen, like part of the mystery they’ll weave on season 4. I agree with your point ReagunUSA about Payne. He cannot see ghosts so if one of them was a ghost then why would he say there are 6 of them and only 5 shadows. So this just proved that nobody is really dead.
The question now is, who is in danger? Since missing shadow and all, that just screamed danger all over it. I think it’s Jim. From that graphic I made, he’s the one without the shadow. So I’m expecting a near death experience for Jim next season.
Posted on June 18th, 2008 at 7:27 am
ReagunUSA Says:
OK, so looks like a probable omen/warning. One thing…. I maean, come on. We know Payne has a machine-like mind, but reallly, who counts shadows crossing the street, especially when one of the group is standing behind the others? What posessed him to do that (and he didn’t seem posessed, he seemed scared - and that guy doesn’t scare easily.) Speaking of posession, I suppose it could be a displaced spirit rather than a death, esp with Daddy flitting around now. But then we have the same problems as with a death. So I’m with Ivy on this being an omen. Another question though, how could this be related to Payne sabatticallizing after a couple of episodes? Jim being a ghost would actually fit there (he has a conflict within himself regarding M SPARKED BY jim’s presence - guilt or something.
Posted on June 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
ReagunUSA Says:
Apologs for the gab, but just 1 more theory (not fully mine). Theory is Jim’s posessed. In that scenario, all we have to make the jump on is that posessed bodies, while corporeal, do not cast shadows (like vampires). If we get over that, everything else fits. Melida ignored Jim cause she is a VERY feeling person and she “sensed” there was no Jim there. PosessedJim did not want to hang near M or Payne for fear of being found out. Payne of course knows posessed people don’t cast shadows, which explains why he was counting them (otherwise inexplicable). He had told Melinda, which is why she was also concerned when he pointed it out (not quizzacle; concerned). Payne goes on sabattical cause rampant evil posession spirits (like Daddy) threaten to make him hurt M.he would never leave her for any other reason than to protect her. If Project Gary does not work out, we can bring him back and kill off Jim if Jamie Kennedy jumps the shark. What do you think?
Posted on June 19th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Ivy Says:
That’s a really good theory ReagunUSA. It would create an awesome story line if Jim was possessed. Give more drama to the show. It will also make the audience fear for Jim’s life because let’s face it, Jim have never really been in danger. He’s Melinda’s husband, surely the ghosts who hated Melinda should have at least thought hurting Jim would hurt Melinda.
Anyway, I hate Jamie Kennedy haha. Maybe he’s a comedic relief for the show like Jay Mohr was. It would really suck if Jim will be replaced by Jamie Kennedy.
Posted on June 20th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Kristy Says:
Well, I think it is Payne. If you rewind back through the last episode you do find clues,such as…
1. In one scene, the phone rings and P tells M that “if that’s for me , I’m already gone.”
2. in the same scene he picks up a stack of books while saying, ” I’m getting the hang of this.” It takes ghosts a while to be able to touch things. This would explain the holding of M’s hand at the end.
3. Also the camera focused in on the top book which was about ghosts.
4. Payne can’t see ghosts so since he can see everyone else, suggests that he is the ghost. Remember, Andrea had to figure it out on her own, M didn’t tell her.
5. When he fell in the shop, M left him there when she left. Why didn’t she ask if he was ok or wait for him to get up and come with her?
6. In one scene, he was talking to the mouse asking what seemed to be afterlife questions.
Posted on June 24th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
ReagunUSA Says:
OK, Kristy got me leaning the other way. I have an admittedly lame theory on the contiguous shadow problem:: The second shadow from the right, that is supposed to be Payne’s, has no torso in Ivy’s second pic. The producers could claim it was Jim’s, who was standing behind the group. The shadow line seems displaced to the right, as if there is a light source over to the left, which would be necessary to have Jim’s shadow project a different way than the tilt of the other shadows would suggest. The “Delia” shadow in Ivy’s first pic would have to be Jim. Granted, would be a copout by the producers unless there are two suns, but I do not see another way to explain contiguous shadows with the middle guy being dead. Would love to hear better theories. Also, the final scene does make sense if P is dead. Jim and M would have known beforehand, of course M knew and told Jim. When Jim saw M walking down the path, he knew what she was doing, and THAT is why he went to the other side of the line, to allow M to do her job; esp delicate in this case. All other Payne interaction could easily have been illusiory from the producers. Also, M is wearing black, which is not unusual, but still…….
Posted on June 28th, 2008 at 9:34 am
ReagunUSA Says:
Look at Ivy’s 1st pic. Payne’s shadow, if he was projecting one, should totally be bigger/longer than the rest since he is by far the most forward?
Posted on June 28th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Jack Lee Says:
just because he has a shadow duznt mean hees ded. he could be possessed. But I think back in the episode of the ” Death of a Loved One”, it pointed out that Jim had those signs behind his back. That scene gave us a warning that something would happen. But the question is how he died? I think it might be Melinda’s false dad.
Posted on June 28th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Kristy Says:
I don’t think the shadows were meant to be analized that closley. First of all, the shadows are in a straight line as if everyone were standing right next to each other and exactly the same height. But as we can see from Ivy’s pic, everyone is standing kinda stagered. So, I think the only significance about the shadows is how many there are.
Posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Kristy Says:
OK I found this post on another site…
Miranda in Sioux Falls, S.D.: Is there any new scoop on Ghost Whisperer?
I just talked to J. Love Hew., and she says that season four is all about possession. This season is going to be especially dark and morbid, and apparently demonic forces will possess many of Grand View’s still-living citizens—and maybe the town itself…
Source: E!Online
Posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Richie Says:
After the interactions happen, they start to show people from the side, right? They first show Jim hugging Dehlia, then two cars pass and the shadows appear, and finally they show Jim and Dehlia then the camera start to show half of Dehlia’s face and Payne’s one. I noticed one thing…
WHERE IS NED?
P.S.: sorry by the Caps Lock turned on
Posted on July 4th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Rachella Says:
I figured this out right away. All the shadows match up to everyone but Jim. Jim is standing back and so there would be one shadow shorter than all the others. It is not that he is dead. As my mom brought up, there is a suspicion that is you can’t see your shadow you are going to die. So its doesnt mean he is dead yet. But it IS his shadow. It has to be.
Posted on July 9th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Rachella Says:
Now after posting and then reading the comments, I have to go back and watch the episode. Kristy really has me thinking the other way. It would all make sense if it is all there. Good job.
Posted on July 9th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Ivy Says:
Maybe Payne is possessed that’s why he doesn’t have a shadow and after all the possession drama he will take a sabbatical cause he couldn’t handle the ghost world anymore. It coincides with the reported rumors that Payne will be having a sabbatical cause Jay Mohr will be leaving the show.
Posted on July 10th, 2008 at 12:18 am
curtis Says:
u know wat i think it’s about the fives in season 2 the five things
maybe it’s the chosen five and payne isn’t the five so he left the whole series
Posted on July 13th, 2008 at 3:10 am
deborahs Says:
i’m new to this, and i havent seen the last episode of season three, but in reading the comments, i would be inclined to think that Jim will be the one to die.
I base this on having read that melinda is told she will get weaker, this would make sense if she loses her husband, and probably doesnt want him to cross over. She would obviously not want to help him cross over as he will leave her- but leaving his soul uncrossed could allow for the darkness to take him over. a possesion.
Melinda would also be weakened by the fact that Payne is setting off to do his own thing, and that Delia struggles to fully believe in the afterlife.
it is not without reason that the five shadows were mentioned, nor that strange line up of them all was shown.
its also the fact that Jim is slightly behind the rest of them, almost showing the new line the show may take, the improved relationship with mother and daughter. And a touchy feely vibe between Melinda and payne, which has not been seen before.
we can only wait and see- as an aside, the writing on jims back about death of a loved one, was that not Melinda when she died, and Gabriel signed to her that that was the fifth sign fulfilled, setting off the about her family in season 3.
Posted on July 16th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Adz Says:
basicly, i just backed up a page and lost wat i had writen…
so quick version of wat i said….
KIRST* - “2. in the same scene he picks up a stack of books while saying, ” I’m getting the hang of this.” It takes ghosts a while to be able to touch things. This would explain the holding of M’s hand at the end.”
at first i thought, yeh good point.. but then it got me thinking..
P saying ” I’m getting the hang of this.” when picking up the books suggest’s he knows he’s dead/ a ghost, but that dosnt add up with the ending when he realised their was only 5 shadows… and was shocked.. which would suggest he didnt know he was a ghost.. hence being shocked…
and in turn him saying their was 6 of them and only 5 shadows means he see’s everyone their…
so either he somehow is seeing the ghost in the group.. “unlikely twist* or more plausable.. no one is dead =] HAPPY DAYS! lol
I could be soo wrong!
post sumthing let me know what you people think bout my idea! =]
Posted on July 17th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Adz Says:
thats actualy longer then what i had down the first time round :L
Posted on July 17th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Adz Says:
ahh i watched that secen again where P says -
“im getting the hang of this”
what he actualy says is “wow the dead are really getting the hang of this, cnt be good news for the living” he was talking the possesion’s the ghosts have been doing, as M mentioned it to him just before he said it… which got me thinking… again…. lol
i think that line has nothing to do with anything lol same for the phone call line when the phone rings and he says if its for me im already gone… why would someone phone M when they wanted to spk to P anyway.. another one of P’s sarcy comments
Posted on July 17th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Akin Says:
No one is dead. How do I know? Simple - Payne said, “There are six of us but only 5 shadows.”
Only two of the six people can see ghosts - Melinda and Beth. Payne can’t, yet he acknowledges that there ARE six people, which means he SEES six people.
You could argue that one of them is dead and Payne has developed the ability to see dead people, but that would be cheesy and I don’t think the producers would do that.
I’m going to go with the omen theory someone said above.
Posted on July 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Akin Says:
Then again, if Payne sees six people including himself but just five shadows, you could argue that Payne is the one who is dead.
However, you would be wrong, because Melinda is holding his hand. That’s impossible - she can’t hold a ghost’s hand.
Posted on July 21st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Kristy Says:
OK, I changed my mind, someone is possessed .
Posted on July 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Betty Boop Says:
i don’t think any body is dead. if you notice Ned (Delia’s son) shadow you will see it is bigger than the others. i think that’s because Jim is standing half behind him so Jim’s shadow is in Ned’s.
Posted on August 2nd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Stagetenor Says:
I just watched the last 8 episodes in 2 days…
I think the shadow issue is possession…here’s why…
Clearly, they all see each other…In the scene between Mel and her mom, you see Jim touches Payne…then Mel and mom link arms, Jim squeezed Ned, Jim touches Delia, Mel and Payne link arms…so they are all alive…but there are only 5 shadows…
Throughout the season, possession has gotten more involved, to the point where the ghost sort of kicks the real person out of the body.
In the episode about the web guy (Justin?) whose girlfriend died on the boat and is in the under city and bad bad bad - she says something like “we are learning how to be able to live up there again - we can teach you” — she MUST be talking about taking over somebody’s body.
The evil dark spirit is still out there somewhere from the first 2 seasons…plus Tom’s ghost is surely angry, but probably not strong enough to possess…We also know the under city spirits are trying to get out…we see them in the creepy street scenes often…
In the last couple episodes, Jim has been acting pretty strange…first threatening death to Tom in the hospital, then verbally attacking Mel’s mom…not like him….
SO - maybe Jim is possessed? He does stay sort of back and away from Mel…
Plus, Gabriel is still out there…and, oddly enough, he remained very uninvolved during the entire “Mel find her real dad”….just my thoughts.
Posted on August 3rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Jennifer Says:
That last episode just opened so many new questions for me.
One question is who is gabriel if tom is not melinda’s father ??
Anyway.. the point to this comment is that i don’t think Jim’s sshadow is missing. If you look at the first and second picture you would see that he is standing behind ned and ned is the same height almost which means jims shadow is within neds shadow.
Or.. maybe it’s jim’s shadow we can see and ned is the one with the missing shadow ???
Anyway not long til 4th season anyway so questions will be answered soon.. hopefully lol
Posted on August 6th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Cee Says:
If you look properley you can see that jim isnt there because is standing back a bit but you can see the bump of his head in between the 2 shadows. in the clip everyone is interacting, I think it was just made 2 fool everyone!!
Posted on August 25th, 2008 at 10:58 pm